1. Fred
    September 5, 2021 @ 2:27 pm

    You’re sure it doesn’t appear? I know it does in Tanach.


  2. OvadYah Avrahami
    September 25, 2021 @ 11:42 pm

    Shalom Fred. With reference to your response on Sep. 9 to our Web Page video by Rabbi Skobac “The Real Messiah” in which he asserts that the word ‘Mashiach’ does not appear in Scripture as referring to such a future Ruler and King on the Throne of David. The 39 usages of this word in Tanach always refer to a normal human being, viz. a Priest, King David, and even a Gentile, Cyrus. You wrote that you question this statement.
    We address this issue in our Web Study  https://www.kolhator.com/who-is-the-mashiach-shocking-biblical-confirmation/
    We review the one occurrence of this word which does indeed refer to this Mystic Figure in Scripture in Ps. 2.
    We also present several in-depth reviews of Who this Mystic Ruler indeed will be.
    Looking forward to your comments after serious consideration of these studies.


  3. Ken/Sabba
    December 17, 2022 @ 6:15 am

    Now that you agree that “Mashiach” actually does appear in Scripture in association with a future Ruler and King on the Throne of David, how is it that you can’t bring yourself to include in Psalm 2 verses 7 and 12 ???? Let me quote them —

    “I will proclaim the Lord’s decree: He said to me, ‘You are my son; today I have become your father’… ‘Kiss his son, or he will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction, for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him.'”

    Is it because these two verses undermine everything you are claiming and seem to support the view that the Messiah is One Person. Even a very specific Person in Jewish and world history who actually claimed to be that One Person … AND THE SON REFERRED TO HERE IN THESE TWO VERSES!


    • OvadYah Avrahami
      December 19, 2022 @ 2:18 am

      Dear Sabba, please be assured that I take your admonition seriously and for deep contemplation. Please also note that I have addressed this usage of the word ‘Mashiach’ in Ps. 2 months earlier in the following address:

      The Answer is enshrouded by that great Mystery that surrounds this entire End Time Event which is now on its last lap to fulfillment. The Truth is: we all simply do not know. God declares of His Covenanted People, that they are deaf and blind and don’t know Him (Isa. 42:18-25). NT Messianics will rejoice at this statement! – the point is that they are evenly blind and ignorant about who their NT ‘Messiah’ truly is and what his purpose was. So, they need the answer to your question as much as Jews do.

      The basic issue here is not about a “Son of God”, but about WHO this ‘Son’ of the NT is – if indeed such a Son exists. You yourself seem to join the Messianics in their insistence that he is more important, more exalted, and more empowered than the One True God Whom Jews worship. This is presenting another God – who must thus be an Idol – that is what NT Messianics make of him. Now some will back-track and say that he IS God Supreme. The question then: WHY do Jews need him if they have HIM, the One Supreme God? And then these Messianics must stop presenting him as a ‘separate son’ of the Supreme God.

      There is a less than 1% fraction of Christianity that does proclaim the NT Personage as a Manifestation of the Supreme God – thus truly God. This would make the NT “Son of God” then like one ray of the Sun entering a dark room – indeed, the Sun itself, not something superior to or separate from the Sun. If this be true, then still, those NT Messianics should come to terms with what the Purpose of this Manifestation of God was: surely NOT to discard the Torah or to present “a Saviour ABOVE the Supreme God.” This insistent claim by Messianics (and yourself), is like claiming that that one ray of sun is really eliminating the entire Sun, yet is greater than the entire Sun!

      If the claim by this 1% of Christianity regarding God’s omnipotent manifestability is possible and true, then it could indeed make sense, also in light of the NT declaration that “he came only for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel,” thus not for Jews. But then, NT believers must wake up to the intrinsic NT Call urging them to worship the One True God together with the Jews, and also to serve Him according to Torah. This, if any, is indeed the Message of the NT which most of its readers totally miss – BUT, millions across the World have over the last 2 – 3 decades come to understand this from the NT Writings. This ignited an exodus from the Church in what is generally referred to as the “Hebraic Restoration Movement”.

      This should then not fret Jews either. Especially if we all were part of, and now being called back to, the original Covenanted Nation that was exiled and thus greatly became ‘lost’ over millennia.
      Prophetic Scripture indeed abounds with Promises that such a Restoration and Return of God’s People will take place – and for the Purposes of the Final Redemption. Here is the List of 100 such Prophetic sections in Scripture.

      The term “Son of God” is a term generally used in Scripture for any individual or group who serves the Creator God. The appearance of the NT Personage on the stage of history has rattled his followers and opponents from the start. To this day his true identity has remained unresolved for humanity and especially for Bible scholars. The Biblical term “Rock of Offence and Stumbling Block” (Isa. 8:14) could well apply to this Personage.
      Interestingly, this Scripture also defines it as a Problem confronting BOTH Houses of Israel, i.e. the House of Judah (Jews) and the House of Lost and unidentified 10-Israel – undoubtedly Christianity, where those exiles ended up and from where they are released in these latter Times as they discover their Torah roots.
      So, for our comprehensive answer on the use of the word Mashiach in Ps. 2, please refer to:
      https://www.kolhator.com/who-is-the-mashiach-shocking-biblical-confirmation/ and also:


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